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03/18/2010 10:15 AM House FISHERIES


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10:18:08 AM Start
10:18:34 AM Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission
10:35:36 AM HB246
10:44:21 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearing: TELECONFERENCED
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 246 SPORT FISH GUIDE LICENSES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                         March 18, 2010                                                                                         
                           10:18 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bryce Edgmon, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Cathy Engstrom Munoz                                                                                             
Representative Robert L. "Bob" Buch                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Bruce Twomley - Juneau                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     -CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 246                                                                                                              
"An  Act  relating  to  the licensing  and  regulation  of  sport                                                               
fishing  operators and  sport fishing  guides  and licensing  and                                                               
registration  of  sport fishing  vessels;  and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 246 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 246                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SPORT FISH GUIDE LICENSES                                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) NEUMAN                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
04/19/09       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/19/09       (H)       FSH, RES                                                                                               
03/16/10       (H)       FSH AT 10:15 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
03/16/10       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/16/10       (H)       MINUTE(FSH)                                                                                            
03/18/10       (H)       FSH AT 10:15 AM BARNES 124                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE TWOMLEY, Appointee                                                                                                        
to the Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC)                                                                             
Alaska Department of Fish & Game (ADF&G)                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified as  appointee to  the Commercial                                                             
Fisheries Entry Commission.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MARK NEUMAN                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as the sponsor of HB 246.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:18:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BRYCE  EDGMON  called  the   House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries meeting to order at  10:18 a.m. Representatives Edgmon,                                                               
Buch,   and  Keller   were  present   at  the   call  to   order.                                                               
Representatives Munoz and  Johnson arrived as the  meeting was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
^Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                        
             Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:18:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR EDGMON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
to consider the reappointment of  Bruce Twomley to the Commercial                                                               
Fisheries Entry Commission (CFEC).                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:19:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  TWOMLEY,  Appointee  to  the  Commercial  Fisheries  Entry                                                               
Commission  (CFEC), Alaska  Department  of Fish  & Game  (ADF&G),                                                               
informed  the committee  he was  first appointed  to the  CFEC by                                                               
Governor  Jay Hammond  in 1982,  and has  been reappointed  seven                                                               
times.  For ten years prior  to his service on the commission, he                                                               
worked for  Alaska Legal  Services as an  attorney.   Mr. Twomley                                                               
stated that the level of  professional commitment by the staff at                                                               
the CFEC  is a  major reason  why he wants  to continue  his work                                                               
there.  In  addition, the work at the commission  continues to be                                                               
demanding and  controversial, because people feel  strongly about                                                               
their rights to fish.   The commissioners serve as administrative                                                               
law judges,  making decisions  reviewed by  the courts;  in fact,                                                               
some  decisions   may  be  reversed,  potentially   resulting  in                                                               
traumatic  effects on  fishermen's livelihoods.   However,  there                                                               
has not  been a  reversal since 1984-validating  the commission's                                                               
work-and he expressed his desire to continue to serve.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:23:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH observed  this  is an  opportunity, and  the                                                               
good fortune  of the state, to  have Mr. Twomley continue  in his                                                               
service.  He asked for an  overview of the commission's work this                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:24:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TWOMLEY explained  that the  daily  tasks involve  producing                                                               
legal decisions  on limited entry  permit applications.   Denials                                                               
by  hearing officers  are  appealed  to the  CFEC  and cases  are                                                               
decided by the  agreement of two of the three  commissioners.  He                                                               
advised  that   the  decisions  reached   are  as   important  to                                                               
individuals as  those in the court  system.  Working as  a group,                                                               
the  three commissioners  have reviewed  more than  900 decisions                                                               
since  1990.     At  the  same  time,   the  commission  remained                                                               
responsible for limiting  fisheries.  Today, the  number of cases                                                               
is down to 51.  Mr.  Twomley then reminded the committee that the                                                               
commission  also administers  the  agency, addressing  regulatory                                                               
questions,  and establishing  fees to  commercial fisherman.   He                                                               
stated   that  the   biggest  issue   last  year   was  providing                                                               
information to the state's attorneys  for its defense against the                                                               
Carlson lawsuit.   In fact, the  commission spends a lot  of time                                                             
working  with  attorneys  to  ensure   that  they  have  a  clear                                                               
understanding  of  the   commission's  decisions  and  reasoning.                                                               
Another measure of the fairness  of the commission's decisions is                                                               
that in 1980 there were one  hundred and fifty pending appeals of                                                               
commission decisions, and now there are only eight.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:29:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH noted  there  is legislation  to expand  the                                                               
size of  some of the other  state commissions.  He  asked whether                                                               
additional  commissioners  would render  the  CFEC  more or  less                                                               
effective.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:30:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TWOMLEY opined  group decisions  are better  than individual                                                               
decisions.    He  stated  that  having  three  commissioners  has                                                               
worked,  and  he  was  unsure  of  what  the  optimum  number  of                                                               
commissioners  might  be  before  one  would  reach  a  point  of                                                               
diminishing returns regarding the  thoroughness and efficiency of                                                               
the commission's deliberations.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:31:46 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:31 a.m. to 10:33 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   EDGMON  acknowledged   the  presence   of  Representative                                                               
Johnson.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:33:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  moved  to   advance  from  committee  the                                                               
appointment of  Bruce Twomley to  the Commercial  Fisheries Entry                                                               
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  EDGMON asked  whether  there were  any  objections to  the                                                               
motion.  There being none,  the appointment was advanced from the                                                               
House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:34:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:34 a.m. to 10:35 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:35:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                HB 246-SPORT FISH GUIDE LICENSES                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:35:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR EDGMON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  246  "An  Act relating  to  the  licensing  and                                                               
regulation of  sport fishing operators  and sport  fishing guides                                                               
and  licensing and  registration  of sport  fishing vessels;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:36:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  EDGMON reminded  the committee  that public  testimony was                                                               
closed  at the  previous hearing.   He  invited closing  comments                                                               
from  the   bill  sponsor  regarding   his  intent   for  pending                                                               
amendments.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:36:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MARK NEUMAN,  Alaska State  Legislature, speaking                                                               
as  the  sponsor, stated  his  intent  to address  the  amendment                                                               
regarding  the  sunset clause  date  before  the House  Resources                                                               
Standing Committee.   He reviewed the process that  began one and                                                               
one-half  years ago  with the  department's advisory  committee's                                                               
efforts to determine  how the residents of Alaska  want to manage                                                               
their  resources.    Concerns raised  by  residents  include  the                                                               
difficulty  in  completing  the surveys  in  the  field-hopefully                                                               
electronic scanning will  help with this-and he  pointed out that                                                               
this  information  is important  to  the  Board of  Fisheries  to                                                               
continue  to  improve  the  science of  tracking  fish,  and  the                                                               
allocation  and  management  of   fish.    Representative  Neuman                                                               
concluded that information collected by the guides is critical.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:39:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH observed  the  only opposition  to the  bill                                                               
centers on the $50 additional charge.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  clarified that the sport  fishing business                                                               
owner  fee  is  $100,  and  he said,  "Do  I  think  that  that's                                                               
appropriate?  No, I don't."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:40:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  asked whether that issue  would be addressed                                                               
by the next committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  advised that the House  Resources Standing                                                               
Committee will review this issue;  however, the industry is using                                                               
Alaskan resources, and funds are  needed to manage this resource.                                                               
With  declining oil  revenue,  programs must  be  funded by  user                                                               
fees, or other ways, in order to obtain the needed data.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:42:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  stated his  support for the  legislation; in                                                               
fact,  other  groups have  taxed  themselves  and contributed  to                                                               
their industries.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:43:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  moved to  report HB 246,  26-LS0929\A, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, HB 246 was                                                               
reported out of the House Special Committee on Fisheries.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:44:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 10:45                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CFEC Reappointee Bruce Twomley.PDF HFSH 3/18/2010 10:15:00 AM
UAF Support for Bruce Twomley--CFEC.PDF HFSH 3/18/2010 10:15:00 AM